“hold off, Is This a romantic date?” Podcast Episode 206: Celebrity Crushes | Autostraddle

It was my sister’s check out choose the motion picture at Blockbuster and she’d plumped for

A Walk to consider

. “Sorry. This is certainly a girl film,” my personal mom warned. Whenever we got house and watched it a household, i did not program my tears. Or my need. I didn’t acknowledge that We adored the film and, more to the point, appreciated top honors. The entire year had been 2002 and between Mandy Moore within this motion picture and Avril Lavigne issuing her first album, I’d discovered the 2 types of star crushes that will haunt the rest of my personal childhood.

Star crushes mean a lot more to queer men and women than they actually do to straight individuals. They could be the basic expressions of queer need or all of our basic expressions of gender jealousy. They may be a safe destination to experiment cravings which are not prepared for the real world.

This is exactly why recently we are speaking with blogger and podcaster Jordan Crucchiola about celebrity crushes. We speak about exactly how celebrity thirsting feels inclusive to Jordan as a panromantic gray asexual individual. We explore the way I believe the majority of my personal celeb crushes tend to be form of attainable. And, of course, we explore the famous earlier females on Christina’s h2o container.

But first! Christina quizzes me personally on a subject I’m sure small about — lesbian love books

SHOW RECORDS

+ The real relationship novels referenced within online game happened to be:

The X Element

,

Busting Personality

,

Resort Queens

,

Payback’s a Witch

, and

The Brutal Facts

.

+ My reference for just two enthusiasts sharing a wall:

+ Christina’s research for just two fans discussing a wall:

+ listed here are every one of Jordan Crucchiola’s podcasts:

An Easy Podcast

The Whole Film Podcast

Aughtsterion

Problem Ladies

Feeling Spotted

+ My well-known

Euphoria

recaps
.

+ If just like me, you have not a clue which Lindsay Shookus is actually,
discover a timeline
of her commitment with Mr. Jennifer Lopez.

+ This is very daring of me personally, because I don’t remember every little thing I wrote to my Tumblr, but here is a web link to
my personal Nicole Kidman job
.

+

The

Angelina Jolie Moving Stone address
.

+ a reminder to look at

P-Valley

and also to review
Natalie’s insurance
.

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EPISODE

Jordan:

Literally each and every time Jennifer Connelly’s face jumped on display screen, each and every time I just moved, “Oh, Jesus.”

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

(laughs)

Jordan:

Like, audibly. We, like, gasped and “Oh, God,” like every fucking time.

[theme track plays]

Drew:

Hi, I’m Drew.

Christina:

And I Also’m Christina.

Drew:

And this is Wait, So Is This A Date?.

Christina:

You understand, Wait, So is this a night out together? is an Autostraddle podcast whereby I consistently forget about which claims what, regardless of how long we have now recorded. Uh, I think which is in fact really breathtaking. And my personal headphones merely decrease right off my mind. Very.

Drew:

So a good s—, strong start.

Christina:

A solid beginning. But mostly, it is a podcast about internet dating and, like, learning what matchmaking is actually and when we understand ideas on how to exercise, like we find out easily learn how to hold my very own headphones back at my really mind.

Drew:

That is great. Um, I am Drew Gregory. I’m (laughs) I am, uh… Or can you… But did you wish me to live thereon longer? I am acquiring looks.

Christina:

No, I Am merely dwelling…

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

…on my self.

Drew:

Great.

Christina:

It’s best in the event that you talk, i believe. (laughs)

Drew:

Correct. Um, uh, I am Drew Gregory. I’m a filmmaker and a writer for Autostraddle. I am a queer trans woman aswell. Those are identification labels that i’ve. Christina?

Christina:

Yes, absolutely. I Am Christina Tucker. Im additionally an author at Autostraddle and a podcaster. And really, this thirty days i have really and truly just already been like a woman about town. I really and truly just been like—

Drew:

Mm.

Christina:

—woman at large, largely in various—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—beaches, uh, during the Jersey Shore.

Drew:

You truly have actually.

Christina:

But nevertheless feeling really in particular and whimsical in a manner that now we certainly believe fatigued by.

Drew:

Positive.

Christina:

I am dark and gay, and that stones for my situation.

Drew:

Everyone loves that. (laughs)

Christina:

Cool. I am not sure why I’m thus weird these days. I, like, don’t know whom Im. What’s going on?

Drew:

Its fine. We are gonna keep goin’.

Christina:

Everything I possess, however, Drew, is a casino game.

Drew:

Mm-hmm. Thank God.

Christina:

And this online game I am evaluating your understanding of anything I Understand you do not have some understanding of, and that is—

Drew:

Oh God.

Christina:

–fun. Um, its a… it is labeled as… I really don’t actually have a reputation for it. I possibly should’ve thought of a reputation. But essentially, I Will supply three lesbian love titles, and you are clearly going—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—to must tell me what are the actual ones of the three.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

Two You will find created, one is genuine. And you’re gonna need to find the real one and let me know what you believe it’s about.

Drew:

Great. Okay.

Christina:

Isn’t it time?

Drew:

I am. Just what the video game.

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

Here we go. Initial three.

The X Ingredient

,

The It Factor

, and

Reality folks

.

Drew:

Huh. It really is funny, ‘cause you might think

The X Element

would in fact end up being

The X Element

alongside

The It Factor

, but—

Christina:

Yes.

Drew:

I wanna state… I just… Oh, i really hope I’m not unintentionally insulting you, but I believe like

The X Ingredient

is the clunkiest, and that means you would not came with that. It needs to be genuine.

Christina:

You might be proper. (laughs)

Drew:

Yes.

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

Wow, I’m so grateful.

Christina:

What exactly do you might think

The X Ingredient

is mostly about?

Drew:

Um, I think it’s about two lesbians who’re exes and finish on the same real life cooking demonstrate that’s kind of like

Chopped

, but, like, approximately

Chopped

and

Fantastic British Baking Program

. Like, it is on for some time but it has kind of the weather of

Chopped

. Um, and they’re exes therefore… It is kind of love a… I’m not sure if this would rely as an enemies to lovers because they were enthusiasts at one point, but it’s like an exes to straight back collectively.

Christina:

Everyone loves that. I also like that by asking you to share with me personally what you think these books are about, I simply generated you create romance plots.

Drew:

I like it.

Christina:

That is really fun. Uh, unfortuitously

The X Element

is actually, uh, about an assistant just who rests together with her boss. When we began checking out it the other day throughout the coastline, I stated, “this might be absolutely a

Devil Wears Prada

fanfic with turned into a real guide.” And when I reveal we take a look at

Devil Wears Prada

fanfic, I sure have actually. In order for’s a journey.

Drew:

Hold off, but just why is it known as

The X Element

?

Christina:

Well, into the original fanfic, the X ingredient was… there was clearly some kind of reason why Miranda had every one of the woman assistants, uh, consume the lady off to orgasm. Um.

Drew:

Wow.

Christina:

Cannot actually recall precisely what the, the story, the backstory ,was on that, um, in new one, contained in this genuine released variation I should state, uh, the X component I guess is actually, I am not sure, just, like, that the woman associate’s hot and she actually is want, “Oh, i will be homosexual today and I also wanna make love with her.” Like, I am not sure. The X component has been hot.

Drew:

Good enough in my situation. Okay.

Christina:

There you choose to go.

Drew:

Round two.

Christina:

Round two.

Reduced Hearts Club

…

Drew:

Uh-huh.

Christina:

…

Breaking Character

,

Going for Broke

.

Drew:

Ooh, those appear to be they are often real. I absolutely want it to be

Splitting Personality

, but In my opinion

Reduced Hearts Club

is actual.

Christina:

Unfortunately,

Reduced Hearts Club

just isn’t real. And lucky for your family,

Breaking Personality

is actual.

Drew:

Oh my personal God, i ought to’ve merely gone with my impulse.

Christina:

Go with your own abdomen, hottie.

Drew:


Splitting Personality

. Okay, really about a sort of like the female Daniel Day-Lewis, like a lady actor exactly who takes her approach operating very honestly, and she develops an union with her co-star. But her co-star, it’s unclear for her co-star and for the actor when the co-star is in love with her or perhaps in love along with her fictional character. And hijinks ensue.

Christina:

Genuinely, that’s not far off through the real plot of

Breaking Personality

, and that’s in reality about two stars, person who is actually, uh, been labeled as a bitch but is in no way, it is simply being, uh, badmouthed by her showrunner because she actually is on like a

Grey’s Anatomy

kind healthcare tv series—

Drew:

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Christina:

—that provides really eliminated from the rails. Her personality’s the bitch.

Drew:

Mm-hmm.

Christina:

And, uh, her new co-star Summer — you got that right, the woman name is summertime — is very lovely and wonderful. And because extremely bonkers storyline factors, they have to have a fake relationship. Nonetheless’re both gay so…

Drew:

So absolutely nothing takes place. They don’t really establish any emotions.

Christina:

Yeah, so that they never… Yeah, absolutely nothing.

Drew:

They never ever connect. No.

Christina:

Nothing occurs. They never ever discuss it in addition they not have sex.

Drew:

Mm-hmm.

Christina:

Yep, that is exactly what occurs.

Drew:

Often which is how it goes.

Christina:

Okay, your following three.

Hotel Queens

,

Media Moguls

, or

Restaurant Monarchs

.

Drew:

Okay, I’m gonna follow my personal impulse and choose the one that I Wish To be real—

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

—and wish that that’s real.

Hotel Queens

.

Christina:


Resort Queens

is actual.

Drew:

Wow, I’m killing it. (laughs)

Christina:

You are eliminating this. For someone who will not study loads of lesbian romance, uh, it is in your bloodstream, hottie.

Drew:

Okay, i will now state the storyline that i really hope really, though I’m confident according to my personal knowledge of publishing market this isn’t the way it is. But i would like that it is about two participants on a show comparable to, similar,

Drag Race

‘cause you’re not actually supposed to, like, maintain one another’s rooms but, you are sure that, they stay in a resort through the entire entire filming associated with program. So they really develop, like, sort of remarkable event that for quite some time can’t be consummated, but their rooms tend to be near to each other so that they, like, knock on the wall around them then when they are filming, there’s exactly like all of the stress and it’s really… And yeah, that’s, that is what Needs

Hotel Queens

as when it comes to.

Christina:

That seems rather hot. Um, which is not just what

Resort Queens

is focused on. It’s just about a female exactly who works motels and, uh, an other woman whom runs a competing hotel.

Drew:

Sure, sure.

Christina:

Just Who works best for a fighting lodge sequence as well as, uh—

Drew:

Sure, sure, positive.

Christina:

—quite actually tend to be resort queens.

Drew:

Sure, sure.

Christina:

But I favor that energy. I really like the slamming on the… extremely, uh,

hit 3 times from the roof if you’d like me personally

electricity, that I fancy.

Drew:

I was referencing

Excellent Star

, and I love our, I favor our very own various cultural factors, you know.

Christina:

I really like the brains.

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

I do believe brains are beautiful.

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

All right,

Paid-in haven

.

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:


The Repayment Plan

.

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

.

Drew:

Oh,

Payback’s a Witch

sounds enjoyable. I am going with

Payback’s a Witch

.

Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

. Which is enjoyable ‘cause really a real publication.

Drew:

Cool.

Christina:

Tell me what you believe

Payback’s a Witch

is about.

Drew:

Okay, I Obtained it.

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

So a young homosexual witch is battling to produce rent in early months of this pandemic.

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

Plus the landlord is similar to, “No, you have to however provide money.” And she is similar, “But appear, like, all these… you are aware, like, you can’t evict me personally,” as well as these different things and like, “you ought to provide me a break,” and “It’s a pandemic.” In addition to property owner’s want, “No, I’m a landlord. I dislike you.”

So after that she is like… She goes, “No, I’m a witch,” and thus after that she begins tormenting the property manager. Love tale isn’t aided by the property manager, not an enemies-to-lovers scenario because—

Christina:

‘Cause landlords are terrible. Certain. (laughs)

Drew:

But actually she discovers that the woman next-door neighbor is also a witch in addition to a lesbian, so they really torment the property manager collectively and fall in really love in the process. It sort of features like a Roald Dahl electricity, like

The Twits

. Or

Great Mr. Fox

. Like, there’s not truly, like… there is not most dispute as soon as the first dispute happens. Like, the pair of them simply are like, “We’re both witches. We are going to torment this individual whom is entitled to be tormented.” Immediately after which they have intercourse.

Christina:

Which is actually really attractive. Uh,

Payback’s a Witch

is mostly about, alternatively, a female who’s, you thought it, a witch exactly who comes back to the woman home town where oahu is the just place that she will be able to perform magic—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—because there is like a miraculous lake. She has been without powers.

Drew:

Fun. Ooh.

Christina:

Um, and she meets a, a woman she had a crush on in highschool. Uh, there is like a complete extended, like, puzzle world-building thing with the community together with people that run the town. They get together. It is rather nice. Fun guide,

Payback’s a Witch

.

Drew:

Actually, on the people to date, this is the one i’d most wanna look over.

Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

is very enjoyable. Uh, there’s a follow up compared to that guide, but it’s sadly about right people. Very.

Drew:

Weird.

Christina:

You victory some, you shed some. Okay, discover all of our last one.

Trustworthiness and 2nd Possibilities

,

Whenever Facts Satisfies Fiction

—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—or

The Brutal Facts

.

Drew:

Ooh. I’m gonna choose

When Reality Satisfies Fiction

.

Christina:

Mm, which unfortunately from my head alone. Uh,

The Brutal Reality

, however…

Drew:

Fortunately that

The Brutal Reality

and

When Facts Matches Fiction

, I think both are comparable thing and that is—

Christina:

Yeah, they might be.

Drew:

—novel-length fanfiction of

The Day Program

as well as Bradley Jackson and her truth-telling. But we imagine whenever it was posted, for copyright reasons they performed must transform some details. So the woman name is perhaps not Bradley Jackson any longer, but it is equally plotted.

Christina:

And That’s a shame because Bradley Jackson is actually top on the list of greatest figure labels previously set to paper, um, despite how—

Drew:

Completely.

Christina:

—ridiculous every thing about any of it is actually. But congratulations on that Emmy nom, Reese.

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

(laughs)

The Brutal Facts

is focused on a mass media mogul who takes over a having difficulties report and drops crazy about the crime journalist, just who produces—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—at the evening. Uh, they usually have a tremendously sweet coming collectively. The news mogul is obviously very mean and like 2 decades over the age of the woman is. This really is amazing stuff.

Drew:

Sure.

Christina:

And I will, because we care such for our listeners, clearly include website links to of the real guides during the show notes.

Drew:

Incredible.

Christina:

In addition to remainder of all of them, they will certainly return back into my personal brain in which they belong. In addition, coming up with titles of publications… Like I’m able to come up with plots for a romance novels all day every day. Titles is, like, really shockingly frustrating.

Drew:

Yeah, you did good.

Christina:

Thank-you. I just required that praise.

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

Our very own very unique guest is one of the best people to thirst about superstars with. Therefore special visitor, why not introduce your self so we could possibly get into celeb crush talk?

Jordan:

Uh, hello. Hi, Christina. It’s a— And Drew. Hello. I, Im Jordan Crucchiola. And if you hear any of my personal podcasts, you may possibly have started because of the Easy Podcast which I performed with Christina. And as we mentioned as I signed to this talk, the last time we were on a pod collectively had been once we were choosing Blake vibrant.

Christina:

And, as I recall, texting feverishly, uh, off-mic—

Jordan:

Yeah.

Christina:

—about wow, Blake Livelyis only in a tiny bit Zoom place.

Jordan:

(laughs)

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

There she is. She is had gotten much locks. What is going on? She’s talkin’ to you for so long.

Jordan:

Opt for God, Blake. Thank-you.

Christina:

It was wild instances. Crazy times.

Jordan:

(laughs)

Drew:

Would you like to state more about who you are?

Jordan:

Sure, sure. Um, I, I would like to declare that i will be someone who enjoys Drew Gregory’s what I start thinking about are conclusive

Euphoria

recaps.

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

Wow. Thank you.

Jordan:

There is particular one where, um… since program makes me so exceptionally… Hunter Schafer is, uh, an angel from Jesus.

Christina:

Yeah.

Jordan:

In addition to tv series tends to make me personally exceedingly unpleasant in how the solitary brain-trust inventor, executor, music producer, manager, writer, gazes upon Hunter.

Christina:

Mm-hmm.

Drew:

Yeah.

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